Posted May 01, 2008 at 02:58AM by David T.
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Ask any person about in-game advertising, and chances are you'll get a variety of responses. Certain people like Jon Epstein of Double Fusion are understandably supportive of it, while others, like Nolan Bushnell, don't think it'll work.According to Bushnell, it's the nature of the in-game ads that works against them: In-game advertising is much, much more [in your face] advertising and is more like a billboard. I don’t believe those kinds of ads are very effective. In a game, if you’re not riveted on the objectives, you’re going to lose. Nevertheless, Bushnell has admitted that there’s opportunity in the casual games business. In fact, he currently serves as an advisor to NeoEdge, a Silicon Valley company that focuses on incorporating ads in casual games. The difference is that NeoEdge's ads may come before, during or after a gaming session - much like TV ads. The ads are reportedly not hidden in the environment, unlike most cases today. |
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» Last I heard..
.. Atari (our boy Nolan's baby) was under threat of being delisted from the NASDAQ? Sounds like somebody clearly doesn't know as much as they think they do about marketing. hehe
People in glass houses and all that jazz
.. Atari (our boy Nolan's baby) was under threat of being delisted from the NASDAQ? Sounds like somebody clearly doesn't know as much as they think they do about marketing. hehe
People in glass houses and all that jazz
» Bushnell no longer with Atari
Your info's a little out of date. While, yes, Nolan Bushnell did found Atari in 1972, he left in 1979. While they'll still look him up for interviews and such on those Atari collection discs, he has no bearing on the current state of Atari.
Your info's a little out of date. While, yes, Nolan Bushnell did found Atari in 1972, he left in 1979. While they'll still look him up for interviews and such on those Atari collection discs, he has no bearing on the current state of Atari.
» a
joke?
joke?
» Totally agree
I'm always so frustrated about in game advertisement. It breaks my suspsense of disbelieve. WTF does a AXE commercial in BurnOut? Or EA billboards everywhere in the Simpsons game. Really makes the game worse.
I'm always so frustrated about in game advertisement. It breaks my suspsense of disbelieve. WTF does a AXE commercial in BurnOut? Or EA billboards everywhere in the Simpsons game. Really makes the game worse.
» I agree
I agree with Mic2000 it does break the suspension of disbelief. Seeing out of place ads really takes you out of the game. There is only one set of games that I would not mind ads (assuming the game was then made cheaper on my end) and that is sports games - particularly Madden, FIFA, and NHL. Games that have ads plastered all over them in real life, and in the game are replaced with redicously fake ads (or simply the EA logo). That would add to the game, assuming they were the right ads for the right stadium (basically try to work out a deal with the arena advertisers and get those same or similar ads).
I agree with Mic2000 it does break the suspension of disbelief. Seeing out of place ads really takes you out of the game. There is only one set of games that I would not mind ads (assuming the game was then made cheaper on my end) and that is sports games - particularly Madden, FIFA, and NHL. Games that have ads plastered all over them in real life, and in the game are replaced with redicously fake ads (or simply the EA logo). That would add to the game, assuming they were the right ads for the right stadium (basically try to work out a deal with the arena advertisers and get those same or similar ads).
» GT
Similarly, I like the ads in Gran Turismo 5 prolouge; it just looks real.
Similarly, I like the ads in Gran Turismo 5 prolouge; it just looks real.
» Pay to be marketed to? BS!
If a game features too much advertising I usually dump it. Put the onus back on the developer - either get my money for the game, or get it from the advertising company - but to hell with you if you think I'm going to pay top dollar for the pleasure of being marketed to!
If a game features too much advertising I usually dump it. Put the onus back on the developer - either get my money for the game, or get it from the advertising company - but to hell with you if you think I'm going to pay top dollar for the pleasure of being marketed to!
» ok
you question an AXE billboard in a racing game? you don't find yourself smelling pretty bad after a few hour marathon of racing? if not then you must use some sort of deodorant, and if you do then maybe you should try AXE... about as out of place as textbooks in school...
ads don't really bother me unless i can't ignore it without stopping what i am doing (TV).
on the quote:
his logic is extremely flawed... you can actually DIE if you don't pay attention while driving an actual car. so the consequences are very real, however billboards still exist which must mean they are at least somewhat effective.
you question an AXE billboard in a racing game? you don't find yourself smelling pretty bad after a few hour marathon of racing? if not then you must use some sort of deodorant, and if you do then maybe you should try AXE... about as out of place as textbooks in school...
ads don't really bother me unless i can't ignore it without stopping what i am doing (TV).
on the quote:
his logic is extremely flawed... you can actually DIE if you don't pay attention while driving an actual car. so the consequences are very real, however billboards still exist which must mean they are at least somewhat effective.
» PSX Wipeout
Remember the Red Bull ads in Wipeout?
We didn't have Red Bull here in Canada until years later. I thought it was a fake ad or another company that was involved in the making of the game.
I sure learned different.
Remember the Red Bull ads in Wipeout?
We didn't have Red Bull here in Canada until years later. I thought it was a fake ad or another company that was involved in the making of the game.
I sure learned different.
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Ask any person about in-game advertising, and chances are you'll get a variety of responses. Certain people like 
