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If the Gay-dar rings, don't buy it. This is what the conservative Christian investment firm, The Timothy Plan, warns for parents planning to get games for their kids. Apart from the usual gaming no-no's, such as sex, violence, and substance abuse, the investment firm also flags games with homosexual content as inappropriate and unsafe for minors. For this, The Timothy Plan hands out a list of the 30 "most offensive" games on the market. They maintain a "Do Not Buy List" for morally responsible consumers, against publishers that trade in abortion, porno, anti-family entertainment, and vices. They evaluate games on these eight categories: Sex, Nudity, Gay & Lesbian, Violence, Language, Drugs, Alcohol, and Game Addiction. They also specified if games have "demonic" content. The usual suspects are all here: Grand Theft Auto IV (Xbox 360, PlayStation 3) and Saint's Row 2 (Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3) (both of which have a check mark on seven of eight categories - even gay content), Fallout 3 (PS3, Xbox 360, PC), and Age of Conan and World of Warcraft to name a few. If they're such phobes about gay content, I'm surprised they didn't tag Manhunt 2 with a gay title. They made a lot of comments that made me laugh, here are a few of my favorites:
Well, I guess they're not looking forward to joining FLAG, but hey, this was worth a few laughs. If you wanna see the full pdf, just click on the source link below More on censorship and game ratings:
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by mysterysword - 2008-12-02 |
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QJ, I hate you...
It's apparent the main point of this article is to spark an argument to get more comments and more traffic.
QJ, I hate you...
It's apparent the main point of this article is to spark an argument to get more comments and more traffic.
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Re: leq - 2008-12-02 |
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I just love chocolate
I just love chocolate
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Re: Nezumi - 2008-12-02 |
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I hope all articles are here to get comments and traffic. I enjoy reading other peoples input, and I'm sure others do too.
I hope all articles are here to get comments and traffic. I enjoy reading other peoples input, and I'm sure others do too.
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Re: StingBlah - 2008-12-02 |
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» same.
I click many times just for the comments!
mysterysword, if you hate Qj why are you here? I thought this was a great article...
I click many times just for the comments!
mysterysword, if you hate Qj why are you here? I thought this was a great article...
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Re: mysterysword - 2008-12-02 |
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I don't really hate QJ. It was an exaggeration of sorts. Lol, I just remember all the irrelevant and mindless posts that erupted from the last thing QJ posted about something similar...
I don't really hate QJ. It was an exaggeration of sorts. Lol, I just remember all the irrelevant and mindless posts that erupted from the last thing QJ posted about something similar...
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Re: ISOHaven - 2008-12-03 |
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» WTF!?!?!?!?!
I agree with mysterysword. QJ has once again totaly FAILED. The title of this article HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ARTICLE!
There is ABSOLUTLY NO GAY BASHING going on. All they are doing is pointing out games with homosexual content.
There is nothing wrong with that as many people are offended by it.
If you don't care about such things then ignore the information.
Also..."gay bashing IN games". WTF is that? They aren't making games that contain gay bashing.
I agree with mysterysword. QJ has once again totaly FAILED. The title of this article HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ARTICLE!
There is ABSOLUTLY NO GAY BASHING going on. All they are doing is pointing out games with homosexual content.
There is nothing wrong with that as many people are offended by it.
If you don't care about such things then ignore the information.
Also..."gay bashing IN games". WTF is that? They aren't making games that contain gay bashing.
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Re: Iconic_187 - 2008-12-04 |
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» BOOOO!!!!
Conservatives always have to ruin all the fun!!!!!
go *****in ruin a gay parade or something but leave the game industry alone!!!!
Conservatives always have to ruin all the fun!!!!!
go *****in ruin a gay parade or something but leave the game industry alone!!!!
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Re: Glenn M. (QJ. NET Staff) - 2008-12-05 |
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» I got censored too!
That's s-p-o-o-n.
Looks like I don't get censor immunity...
That's s-p-o-o-n.
Looks like I don't get censor immunity...
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by Nezumi - 2008-12-02 |
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I'd say: "Can't we all just get along?" But, that would involve everyone, and if there are 2 guys or girls out there, then there's a chance that the term can be punned to possible sometimes maybe suggest a possible near homo-erotic sense... Well F-word, what the h-word do I say now... F**k...
I'd say: "Can't we all just get along?" But, that would involve everyone, and if there are 2 guys or girls out there, then there's a chance that the term can be punned to possible sometimes maybe suggest a possible near homo-erotic sense... Well F-word, what the h-word do I say now... F**k...
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by Robman62 - 2008-12-02 |
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» kiss?
wtf that achievement is very gay....Im sorry I never played bully, but why does the main character kiss boys?
wtf that achievement is very gay....Im sorry I never played bully, but why does the main character kiss boys?
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Re: squintin - 2008-12-17 |
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» seriously...
If I was a parent I wouldn't want to walk in on my child hiding the fact that he was trying to get the guy-on-guy kissing achievement in a game that's the kind of inward ***** that makes it a kids own gay little secret...parents should have a right to stop that shame and confusion by compiling a handy list of games that are inappropriate or confusing for their children at least until age 13 (when they hit high school they're their own person whether you know or not)
If I was a parent I wouldn't want to walk in on my child hiding the fact that he was trying to get the guy-on-guy kissing achievement in a game that's the kind of inward ***** that makes it a kids own gay little secret...parents should have a right to stop that shame and confusion by compiling a handy list of games that are inappropriate or confusing for their children at least until age 13 (when they hit high school they're their own person whether you know or not)
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by Shazman1984 - 2008-12-02 |
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they should make a game where the main character is gay, just to piss them off, closed minded idiots.
they should make a game where the main character is gay, just to piss them off, closed minded idiots.
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Re: ReDx06 - 2008-12-02 |
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they are really not being closed minded, parents that are Christians that are just being aware. There is no need to get all, they are "closed minded" on me. They have rights too. Let them do wat they want to do. You go about your business.
they are really not being closed minded, parents that are Christians that are just being aware. There is no need to get all, they are "closed minded" on me. They have rights too. Let them do wat they want to do. You go about your business.
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Re: ISOHaven - 2008-12-03 |
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» WTF!?!?!?!?!
Very well said, ReDx06.
They aren't being close minded. I have more then a few gay friends and they know damn well not to "make out" in front me and I know damn well not to "make out" in front of them.
It's a little something called RESPECT.
There's a major difference between acceptance and PARTICIPATION.
Very well said, ReDx06.
They aren't being close minded. I have more then a few gay friends and they know damn well not to "make out" in front me and I know damn well not to "make out" in front of them.
It's a little something called RESPECT.
There's a major difference between acceptance and PARTICIPATION.
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Re: treyjazz - 2008-12-04 |
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Never heard of Freshly-Picked Tingle's Rosy Rupeeland?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freshly-Picked_Tingle%27s_Rosy_Rupeeland
Never heard of Freshly-Picked Tingle's Rosy Rupeeland?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freshly-Picked_Tingle%27s_Rosy_Rupeeland
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by coolethan - 2008-12-02 |
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» Army of Two
Wow that is hilarious about the Army of Two characters being gay.
and they're not even sure about it, they just assume they are. lol
This is the most bull***** list i have ever seen.
They even have World of Warcraft listed... how strange
Wow that is hilarious about the Army of Two characters being gay.
and they're not even sure about it, they just assume they are. lol
This is the most bull***** list i have ever seen.
They even have World of Warcraft listed... how strange
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by girandhistacos - 2008-12-02 |
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» Not fully comprehending...
How does homosexuality fall into the same category as brutal violence, obscene language and nudity/scenes of sexuality?
There is nothing wrong with children seeing two men/boys or two women/girls together, it's a perfectly natural and common occurrance.
The only thing that lists like this do is create hate for gay people by telling children that what the gay community is "doing" is wrong.
Well, what they should be taught is whatever this "Timothy Plan" is doing is wrong.
The Timothy Plan is a multi-funded "organization" in Florida that takes money from companies and stocks to spend on telling children and parents that if they are gay, smokers, drinkers, pro-choice, gamblers, or enjoying porn... that they are wrong, that their quality of life is disgusting and they will go to hell.
It's a ridiculous money-making scheme that is just disgusting.
Now I can see why a head exploding in great detail in Fallout 3 would be rather inappropriate for a 9 year old... but there is absolutely NOTHING wrong with them seeing two people of the same sex holding hands or kissing.
How does homosexuality fall into the same category as brutal violence, obscene language and nudity/scenes of sexuality?
There is nothing wrong with children seeing two men/boys or two women/girls together, it's a perfectly natural and common occurrance.
The only thing that lists like this do is create hate for gay people by telling children that what the gay community is "doing" is wrong.
Well, what they should be taught is whatever this "Timothy Plan" is doing is wrong.
The Timothy Plan is a multi-funded "organization" in Florida that takes money from companies and stocks to spend on telling children and parents that if they are gay, smokers, drinkers, pro-choice, gamblers, or enjoying porn... that they are wrong, that their quality of life is disgusting and they will go to hell.
It's a ridiculous money-making scheme that is just disgusting.
Now I can see why a head exploding in great detail in Fallout 3 would be rather inappropriate for a 9 year old... but there is absolutely NOTHING wrong with them seeing two people of the same sex holding hands or kissing.
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Re: ReDx06 - 2008-12-02 |
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» ok let me set things straight...
"There is nothing wrong with children seeing two men/boys or two women/girls together, it's a perfectly natural and common occurrance."
Dude its neither, people are not born gay or lesbian. Its all a choice, and usually people choose to be gay or lesbian is because they lack a father or had a weird relationship with their mother. The number 1 factor in sexual behavior is the success or failure of the home.
Homosexuality is not a heality alternative. We are not designed for that behavior. There are people that are pro health (not Christians) that research this stuff. This should break your heart right here, and this isn't to point the finger and say "HA!"
"78% of homosexual males have sexuality transmitted diseases."
"homosexual males are 4000 times likely to have a STD."
"1% of men in the homosexual community die of natural causes."
check out this media that i found this information off of...
http://realitymessages.com/audio/2008-10-25-Homosexuality_The_Bible_And_Ministry-64kbps.mp3
"There is nothing wrong with children seeing two men/boys or two women/girls together, it's a perfectly natural and common occurrance."
Dude its neither, people are not born gay or lesbian. Its all a choice, and usually people choose to be gay or lesbian is because they lack a father or had a weird relationship with their mother. The number 1 factor in sexual behavior is the success or failure of the home.
Homosexuality is not a heality alternative. We are not designed for that behavior. There are people that are pro health (not Christians) that research this stuff. This should break your heart right here, and this isn't to point the finger and say "HA!"
"78% of homosexual males have sexuality transmitted diseases."
"homosexual males are 4000 times likely to have a STD."
"1% of men in the homosexual community die of natural causes."
check out this media that i found this information off of...
http://realitymessages.com/audio/2008-10-25-Homosexuality_The_Bible_And_Ministry-64kbps.mp3
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Re: FreePlay - 2008-12-02 |
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ReDx06, you have no clue what you're talking about, and your source is full of sh*t.
ReDx06, you have no clue what you're talking about, and your source is full of sh*t.
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Re: Aces In The Palm - 2008-12-03 |
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» lol
you do know that 95% of statistical percentages are just made up numbers.
even when its not made up, they grab a number of random people and ask them questions. because its random people its random results
different groups of people will show different percentages and therefore these finding are in no way scientifically sound. they'de have to survey the whole population to get true results and we know that will never happen
also i could say the same and say that hetrosexuality is a choice.
its not being homosexual that causes STDs...its promiscuity...in english just means more sexual parnters equals higher risk of STDs fullstop
you do know that 95% of statistical percentages are just made up numbers.
even when its not made up, they grab a number of random people and ask them questions. because its random people its random results
different groups of people will show different percentages and therefore these finding are in no way scientifically sound. they'de have to survey the whole population to get true results and we know that will never happen
also i could say the same and say that hetrosexuality is a choice.
its not being homosexual that causes STDs...its promiscuity...in english just means more sexual parnters equals higher risk of STDs fullstop
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Re: girandhistacos - 2008-12-03 |
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» ReDx06
Okay, firstly, don't call me 'dude' you ignorant, closet dwelling, bigot.
Look at the website and the 'statistics' you decided to "enlighten" us with... THEY'RE FROM CHRISTIANS!
Your gay-bashing just goes to show how ignorant our society truly still is. I applaud the people that textually slapped you upside the head. (FreePlay and Aces)
I have many gay friends and not a single one of them has an STD... therefore your statistics are blown out of the water you moron.
Get your facts straight, homosexuality is NOT a choice just as much as hetero is NOT a choice. It's a way you ARE BORN. You obviously didn't choose to be straight and luckily not everyone is born like you.
Your ignorance is not welcome, neither is anyone that agrees with anything you have to dribble out of your mouth.
Okay, firstly, don't call me 'dude' you ignorant, closet dwelling, bigot.
Look at the website and the 'statistics' you decided to "enlighten" us with... THEY'RE FROM CHRISTIANS!
Your gay-bashing just goes to show how ignorant our society truly still is. I applaud the people that textually slapped you upside the head. (FreePlay and Aces)
I have many gay friends and not a single one of them has an STD... therefore your statistics are blown out of the water you moron.
Get your facts straight, homosexuality is NOT a choice just as much as hetero is NOT a choice. It's a way you ARE BORN. You obviously didn't choose to be straight and luckily not everyone is born like you.
Your ignorance is not welcome, neither is anyone that agrees with anything you have to dribble out of your mouth.
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Re: WiiRolled - 2008-12-03 |
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» ReDx06 you're wrong
Homosexuals are actually born homosexual
Homosexuals are actually born homosexual
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Re: ISOHaven - 2008-12-03 |
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» WTF!?!?!?!?!
@WiiRolled - Well, you're just as wrong ReDx06.
It's BOTH!
Some people choose to be gay, some are born that way. Some chose both lifestyles!
I wont comment on statistics of which there are no multiple sources, but one thing he is right about is the fact that being gay is not normal. If it was, humanity would kill itself off.
Normal equals procreation. There is no way around that. But on the same note, that doesn't mean being gay is "wrong".
Hate comes from ideals where there can only be ONE WAY about things. We can have both, live with both, accept both. But at the same time, we can choose what we want to partake in.
@WiiRolled - Well, you're just as wrong ReDx06.
It's BOTH!
Some people choose to be gay, some are born that way. Some chose both lifestyles!
I wont comment on statistics of which there are no multiple sources, but one thing he is right about is the fact that being gay is not normal. If it was, humanity would kill itself off.
Normal equals procreation. There is no way around that. But on the same note, that doesn't mean being gay is "wrong".
Hate comes from ideals where there can only be ONE WAY about things. We can have both, live with both, accept both. But at the same time, we can choose what we want to partake in.
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Re: ISOHaven - 2008-12-03 |
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» WTF!?!?!?!?!
Sup dude? :)
Sup dude? :)
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Re: FreePlay - 2008-12-03 |
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Nobody chooses to be gay. Period.
Nobody chooses to be gay. Period.
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Re: FreePlay - 2008-12-03 |
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Oh, and if you really want to go the whole "natural" route, you're way out of line.
When it comes to sexual behavior, human beings are extremely weird animals. Nearly all animals in the wild will participate in homosexual acts as a means of expressing dominance over other members of the group. And as for procreation, infertile people can't procreate - does that mean they're not natural?
Please, *think*.
Oh, and if you really want to go the whole "natural" route, you're way out of line.
When it comes to sexual behavior, human beings are extremely weird animals. Nearly all animals in the wild will participate in homosexual acts as a means of expressing dominance over other members of the group. And as for procreation, infertile people can't procreate - does that mean they're not natural?
Please, *think*.
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Re: ISOHaven - 2008-12-03 |
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» WTF!?!?!?!?!
"Nobody chooses to be gay. Period."
You are dead wrong. Period. Both situations exist. Just because you don't know anyone who's gone done either road doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
"Nearly all animals in the wild will participate in homosexual acts as a means of expressing dominance over other members of the group."
You are comparing human beings with other animals.... you are an idiot. We do not RAPE other people to show dominance. Well, for those that do, they get locked up.
Seriously, WTF where you trying to prove with that BS? If you want to jump off the deep end, it wont mater, the main point is procreation will always win. These homosexual acts you speak of, is nothing but BS because those animals continue to procreate with the opposite sex.
At best, your argument proves everyone is Bi. You are so completely ignorant, it baffles my mind.
"And as for procreation, infertile people can't procreate - does that mean they're not natural?"
If they are "infertile" then something went WRONG. They are BROKEN. So, yeah, being broken is not natural. Now let's hear your usual BS about how my comments are NEGATIVE towards these people.....even though they are not.
"Please, *think*."
Practice what you preach!
"Nobody chooses to be gay. Period."
You are dead wrong. Period. Both situations exist. Just because you don't know anyone who's gone done either road doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
"Nearly all animals in the wild will participate in homosexual acts as a means of expressing dominance over other members of the group."
You are comparing human beings with other animals.... you are an idiot. We do not RAPE other people to show dominance. Well, for those that do, they get locked up.
Seriously, WTF where you trying to prove with that BS? If you want to jump off the deep end, it wont mater, the main point is procreation will always win. These homosexual acts you speak of, is nothing but BS because those animals continue to procreate with the opposite sex.
At best, your argument proves everyone is Bi. You are so completely ignorant, it baffles my mind.
"And as for procreation, infertile people can't procreate - does that mean they're not natural?"
If they are "infertile" then something went WRONG. They are BROKEN. So, yeah, being broken is not natural. Now let's hear your usual BS about how my comments are NEGATIVE towards these people.....even though they are not.
"Please, *think*."
Practice what you preach!
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Re: ReDx06 - 2008-12-03 |
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» ok
have any of you actually listened to the full mp3? And well hello Freeplay nice to see you again.
Omg you guys are so wrong. There is no gay gene. Post a website that shows that the gay gene exist, you cant cause there isn't one.
You choose to be gay, or lesbian plain and simple. And if someone is born a homosexual, give me the website of the baby and the complete pregnancy.
have any of you actually listened to the full mp3? And well hello Freeplay nice to see you again.
Omg you guys are so wrong. There is no gay gene. Post a website that shows that the gay gene exist, you cant cause there isn't one.
You choose to be gay, or lesbian plain and simple. And if someone is born a homosexual, give me the website of the baby and the complete pregnancy.
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Re: pilch - 2008-12-04 |
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» ReDx06
As you are convinced that gay people choose to be gay, you too chose to be straight, is that right?
Can you describe for us the moment that you stopped, thought about it and decided that you would be straight from then on?
Yeah, I thought so.
As you are convinced that gay people choose to be gay, you too chose to be straight, is that right?
Can you describe for us the moment that you stopped, thought about it and decided that you would be straight from then on?
Yeah, I thought so.
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Re: ISOHaven - 2008-12-04 |
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» WTF!?!?!?!?!
I agreed with you above, but we are not going to agree with this.
Sorry bud, I know plenty of guys that have NEVER had sexual feelings for women. Having a sexual urge is natural, human nature and when you ONLY have sexual feelings for a guy and are a guy yourself....you're born with that. When you feel urges for both sexes and you CHOOSE which to follow...yeah, that's choice. That also makes you bisexual.
Gay gene? Even if it DID exist, we would NOT be able to point it out so that makes your entire "argument" pretty convenient for YOU. Seems to me it would be a combination of a couple or few things. After all these many decades we are STILL homing in on DNA bits that control certain things. We're not there yet. We're not making custom babies yet FOR A REASON.
I got one better.... since you demanded to know where the gay gene is.... SHOW ME THE STRAIGHT GENE. Since you seem to think there's an actual gene that determines this.
I agreed with you above, but we are not going to agree with this.
Sorry bud, I know plenty of guys that have NEVER had sexual feelings for women. Having a sexual urge is natural, human nature and when you ONLY have sexual feelings for a guy and are a guy yourself....you're born with that. When you feel urges for both sexes and you CHOOSE which to follow...yeah, that's choice. That also makes you bisexual.
Gay gene? Even if it DID exist, we would NOT be able to point it out so that makes your entire "argument" pretty convenient for YOU. Seems to me it would be a combination of a couple or few things. After all these many decades we are STILL homing in on DNA bits that control certain things. We're not there yet. We're not making custom babies yet FOR A REASON.
I got one better.... since you demanded to know where the gay gene is.... SHOW ME THE STRAIGHT GENE. Since you seem to think there's an actual gene that determines this.
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Re: ReDx06 - 2008-12-04 |
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» okay....
this part goes to answer pilch...
ever since i was little or could remember, i've always been raised in the Church. God and my Bible tell me that homosexuality is wrong. (if you have a problem with that statement take it up with God) Anyways I once thought and questioned my sexuality, what makes me straight and why am I not like others who say that they were born gay. Sooooooo...I prayed about and continued reading my Bible, and I came to the conclusion that 1. my body scientifically is not made to have sex with another man, 2. If God is the maker of all things why would he make a gay child, it goes against his word. and 3. being raised in the church, i know that's its a wrong life style to be a homosexual. As a Christian we dont hate the gays we hate their lifestyle, or their sin. Let me know if that answers your question.
This part goes to ISOHaven...
"Sorry bud, I know plenty of guys that have NEVER had sexual feelings for women. Having a sexual urge is natural, human nature and when you ONLY have sexual feelings for a guy and are a guy yourself....you're born with that."
Ok so you knew these men from when they came out their mother's womb and you all just decided then to be gay? Did all the other babies in the nursing home agree with you too on this?
"I got one better.... since you demanded to know where the gay gene is.... SHOW ME THE STRAIGHT GENE. Since you seem to think there's an actual gene that determines this."
Okay ill tell you plain and simple there is no straight gene. Honestly when your born out of your mother's womb you dont declare to your dad or mom that your straight or gay, ok? I think we can all agree on that. i believe that its our nature to reproduce and bring forth children. (Call it the survival of the fittest or what have you) But you cant do that with two men or two women, its impossible. For some straights that are Christians they know automatically that the homosexual sin is wrong.
For others that aren't religious i think they realize the homosexual lifestyle is wrong when they see that it is unnatural.
Now for those who claim to think they were born gay...you had no idea if you were gay or not, in your head you thought that men or women were the more attractive specimen, and you let your feelings get the most of you and you followed your so called "instincts" and went for that lifestyle. THAT'S A CHOICE!
If i want a big box of Krispy Cream Doughnuts and my mind says ya lets get one, and my so called "instincts" says "ya, it will satisfy your needs" then i go and spend my money and buy my box and eat it, then i made the choice to do that. Was it heality for me to do that? No, (ill probably have to spend like 1600 hours working it off in the gym lol :)) because that was not right for my body.
And for everyone who thinks im bashing on Gays...
IM NOT! My heart goes out to them! Everyone says that Im bashing on them but look at your comments, your the ones doing the bashing on me. If your lifestyles as gays was okay by Gods and everyone else's standards then why are you getting upset? Ohhh ya i forgot, cause its not okay. Your so caught up in your sin that any light shown at it makes you all go nuts.
this part goes to answer pilch...
ever since i was little or could remember, i've always been raised in the Church. God and my Bible tell me that homosexuality is wrong. (if you have a problem with that statement take it up with God) Anyways I once thought and questioned my sexuality, what makes me straight and why am I not like others who say that they were born gay. Sooooooo...I prayed about and continued reading my Bible, and I came to the conclusion that 1. my body scientifically is not made to have sex with another man, 2. If God is the maker of all things why would he make a gay child, it goes against his word. and 3. being raised in the church, i know that's its a wrong life style to be a homosexual. As a Christian we dont hate the gays we hate their lifestyle, or their sin. Let me know if that answers your question.
This part goes to ISOHaven...
"Sorry bud, I know plenty of guys that have NEVER had sexual feelings for women. Having a sexual urge is natural, human nature and when you ONLY have sexual feelings for a guy and are a guy yourself....you're born with that."
Ok so you knew these men from when they came out their mother's womb and you all just decided then to be gay? Did all the other babies in the nursing home agree with you too on this?
"I got one better.... since you demanded to know where the gay gene is.... SHOW ME THE STRAIGHT GENE. Since you seem to think there's an actual gene that determines this."
Okay ill tell you plain and simple there is no straight gene. Honestly when your born out of your mother's womb you dont declare to your dad or mom that your straight or gay, ok? I think we can all agree on that. i believe that its our nature to reproduce and bring forth children. (Call it the survival of the fittest or what have you) But you cant do that with two men or two women, its impossible. For some straights that are Christians they know automatically that the homosexual sin is wrong.
For others that aren't religious i think they realize the homosexual lifestyle is wrong when they see that it is unnatural.
Now for those who claim to think they were born gay...you had no idea if you were gay or not, in your head you thought that men or women were the more attractive specimen, and you let your feelings get the most of you and you followed your so called "instincts" and went for that lifestyle. THAT'S A CHOICE!
If i want a big box of Krispy Cream Doughnuts and my mind says ya lets get one, and my so called "instincts" says "ya, it will satisfy your needs" then i go and spend my money and buy my box and eat it, then i made the choice to do that. Was it heality for me to do that? No, (ill probably have to spend like 1600 hours working it off in the gym lol :)) because that was not right for my body.
And for everyone who thinks im bashing on Gays...
IM NOT! My heart goes out to them! Everyone says that Im bashing on them but look at your comments, your the ones doing the bashing on me. If your lifestyles as gays was okay by Gods and everyone else's standards then why are you getting upset? Ohhh ya i forgot, cause its not okay. Your so caught up in your sin that any light shown at it makes you all go nuts.
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Re: treyjazz - 2008-12-04 |
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» @ReDx06
"ever since i was little or could remember, i've always been raised in the Church. God and my Bible tell me that homosexuality is wrong. (if you have a problem with that statement take it up with God) Anyways I once thought and questioned my sexuality, what makes me straight and why am I not like others who say that they were born gay. Sooooooo...I prayed about and continued reading my Bible, and I came to the conclusion that 1. my body scientifically is not made to have sex with another man, 2. If God is the maker of all things why would he make a gay child, it goes against his word. and 3. being raised in the church, i know that's its a wrong life style to be a homosexual. As a Christian we dont hate the gays we hate their lifestyle, or their sin. Let me know if that answers your question."
So the reason why you chose not to be homosexual is that you were indoctrinated from an early age?
It sounds like you still have a lot of conflict since you seem to want to prove a point to the world by forcing 'facts' on them.
As to whether homosexuality is said to be a sin in the original scriptures that were compiled into the bible... (I say the original scriptures since the translated and rewritten ones are heavily biased to fit the agenda.) If it were such a big issue then why isn't there a section devoted to it entirely? Why would there be only a handful of supposed references to it? Why didn't Jesus say anything about it?
If you want to live by what the bible says then you better be prepared to follow everything in Leviticus to the t... Nearly ever single person would be put to death under the 'sins' in that book.
I beg to differ on your final quote. You can't say that there isn't a lot of hate going on towards gays from Christians. So much animosity is directed at the gays from groups of Christians. If they really wanted to follow in Jesus' footsteps they would direct all of their attention to helping the poor, etc.
"ever since i was little or could remember, i've always been raised in the Church. God and my Bible tell me that homosexuality is wrong. (if you have a problem with that statement take it up with God) Anyways I once thought and questioned my sexuality, what makes me straight and why am I not like others who say that they were born gay. Sooooooo...I prayed about and continued reading my Bible, and I came to the conclusion that 1. my body scientifically is not made to have sex with another man, 2. If God is the maker of all things why would he make a gay child, it goes against his word. and 3. being raised in the church, i know that's its a wrong life style to be a homosexual. As a Christian we dont hate the gays we hate their lifestyle, or their sin. Let me know if that answers your question."
So the reason why you chose not to be homosexual is that you were indoctrinated from an early age?
It sounds like you still have a lot of conflict since you seem to want to prove a point to the world by forcing 'facts' on them.
As to whether homosexuality is said to be a sin in the original scriptures that were compiled into the bible... (I say the original scriptures since the translated and rewritten ones are heavily biased to fit the agenda.) If it were such a big issue then why isn't there a section devoted to it entirely? Why would there be only a handful of supposed references to it? Why didn't Jesus say anything about it?
If you want to live by what the bible says then you better be prepared to follow everything in Leviticus to the t... Nearly ever single person would be put to death under the 'sins' in that book.
I beg to differ on your final quote. You can't say that there isn't a lot of hate going on towards gays from Christians. So much animosity is directed at the gays from groups of Christians. If they really wanted to follow in Jesus' footsteps they would direct all of their attention to helping the poor, etc.
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Re: leq - 2008-12-04 |
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» @ReDx06
Hey ReDx06 have you ever tried to stop masturbating?
I did once, and after about a week the kitchen table started looking sexy.
I can only imagine that it's just as difficult to tell a gay man to stop having homo-erotic thoughts, as it is to tell straight guys like us to stop fantasizing about our smoking hot science professors.
However, being a straight man, I don't know this for sure. From my point of view it's entirely possible that homosexuality is a choice and being bombarded with statistics can never eliminate this uncertainty.
But, what I don't understand, is why you care. Your statistics (although false) are completely irrelevant. They only illustrate that we should be enforcing safer sex practices (and that goes for everyone, not just homosexuals), because the fact is, all STD's are preventable.
Each one of your statistics hinges on the notion that if you're homosexual, you're more likely to get STD's. But these statistics are meaningless to somebody who practices safe sex.
But this all neither here, nor there, because the fact is that no matter how many statistics you compile, you just can't be sure whether or not homosexuality is a choice, nobody can be sure except those that are genuinely homosexual.
so, my question to you is, why attack homosexuality (where nobody can be sure whether or not it's a choice), when there are so many "sinful" things out there that are clearly choice (i.e. practicing other religions).
Personally, I don't believe in god at all, so surely I must seem more sinful to you, then someone who *****'s men in the ass.
Hey ReDx06 have you ever tried to stop masturbating?
I did once, and after about a week the kitchen table started looking sexy.
I can only imagine that it's just as difficult to tell a gay man to stop having homo-erotic thoughts, as it is to tell straight guys like us to stop fantasizing about our smoking hot science professors.
However, being a straight man, I don't know this for sure. From my point of view it's entirely possible that homosexuality is a choice and being bombarded with statistics can never eliminate this uncertainty.
But, what I don't understand, is why you care. Your statistics (although false) are completely irrelevant. They only illustrate that we should be enforcing safer sex practices (and that goes for everyone, not just homosexuals), because the fact is, all STD's are preventable.
Each one of your statistics hinges on the notion that if you're homosexual, you're more likely to get STD's. But these statistics are meaningless to somebody who practices safe sex.
But this all neither here, nor there, because the fact is that no matter how many statistics you compile, you just can't be sure whether or not homosexuality is a choice, nobody can be sure except those that are genuinely homosexual.
so, my question to you is, why attack homosexuality (where nobody can be sure whether or not it's a choice), when there are so many "sinful" things out there that are clearly choice (i.e. practicing other religions).
Personally, I don't believe in god at all, so surely I must seem more sinful to you, then someone who *****'s men in the ass.
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Re: Glenn M. (QJ. NET Staff) - 2008-12-04 |
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» @ ReDx06
Think about this for a sec:
Why would homosexuals "choose" to be that way, when they know perfectly well of the discrimination, ridicule, and even persecution that comes with being gay?
Think about this for a sec:
Why would homosexuals "choose" to be that way, when they know perfectly well of the discrimination, ridicule, and even persecution that comes with being gay?
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Re: ISOHaven - 2008-12-04 |
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» WTF!?!?!?!?!
"Ok so you knew these men from when they came out their mother's womb and you all just decided then to be gay? Did all the other babies in the nursing home agree with you too on this?"
What the heck was that? 1. I am not gay. 2. Yes, I knew some of these people for as long as I can remember. We all grew up together. They all had normal families just like myself. I mention that because of your earlier rediculous comment about how people are only gay because of bad homes.
You completely dodged the entire point and the question.
"Okay ill tell you plain and simple there is no straight gene."
Good, that means there is no gay gene either. A gene does not determine this. Since you can not answer the question at hand, WHAT DETERMINES sexual preference, then YOU CAN NOT definitively claim that someone is or is not born gay.
"and you let your feelings get the most of you and you followed your so called "instincts""
Wow, you just proved yourself wrong. A PERSON IS BORN WITH INSTINCTS. If they followed their INSTINCTS then they followed with traights they were BORN WITH.
I was born with a very specific instinct. I'm attracted to women - BORN STRAIGHT
People are born with a non specific instinct. They are attracted to both men and women - BORN BISEXUAL
People are born with a specific instinct. They are attracted to same sex - BORN GAY
The only choice here, are the bisexuals. Well, and maybe people who are "scared straight"...HAHAHAHA...or scared gay, by being rape victims and other such scenarios.
"So the reason why you chose not to be homosexual is that you were indoctrinated from an early age?"
"It sounds like you still have a lot of conflict since you seem to want to prove a point to the world by forcing 'facts' on them."
Sounds to me like he's bisexual and CHOSE to be straight. There is no question in my mind, I never once questioned my sexuality. The first time I ever saw a guy kissing a guy, I damn near threw up. I HAVE NO CHOICE, I AM STRAIGHT. So how he can call it a choice can only attest to one thing, he's bi.
Glenn has offered us another question to put on the table. So far NONE of the questions have been answered.
"Ok so you knew these men from when they came out their mother's womb and you all just decided then to be gay? Did all the other babies in the nursing home agree with you too on this?"
What the heck was that? 1. I am not gay. 2. Yes, I knew some of these people for as long as I can remember. We all grew up together. They all had normal families just like myself. I mention that because of your earlier rediculous comment about how people are only gay because of bad homes.
You completely dodged the entire point and the question.
"Okay ill tell you plain and simple there is no straight gene."
Good, that means there is no gay gene either. A gene does not determine this. Since you can not answer the question at hand, WHAT DETERMINES sexual preference, then YOU CAN NOT definitively claim that someone is or is not born gay.
"and you let your feelings get the most of you and you followed your so called "instincts""
Wow, you just proved yourself wrong. A PERSON IS BORN WITH INSTINCTS. If they followed their INSTINCTS then they followed with traights they were BORN WITH.
I was born with a very specific instinct. I'm attracted to women - BORN STRAIGHT
People are born with a non specific instinct. They are attracted to both men and women - BORN BISEXUAL
People are born with a specific instinct. They are attracted to same sex - BORN GAY
The only choice here, are the bisexuals. Well, and maybe people who are "scared straight"...HAHAHAHA...or scared gay, by being rape victims and other such scenarios.
"So the reason why you chose not to be homosexual is that you were indoctrinated from an early age?"
"It sounds like you still have a lot of conflict since you seem to want to prove a point to the world by forcing 'facts' on them."
Sounds to me like he's bisexual and CHOSE to be straight. There is no question in my mind, I never once questioned my sexuality. The first time I ever saw a guy kissing a guy, I damn near threw up. I HAVE NO CHOICE, I AM STRAIGHT. So how he can call it a choice can only attest to one thing, he's bi.
Glenn has offered us another question to put on the table. So far NONE of the questions have been answered.
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Re: ReDx06 - 2008-12-04 |
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» ok
okay im not even gonna reply to Ieq, or Leq or whatever. Bro that was mean.
As for Glenn...
people choose to be homosexual because either there was no father figure in the home, and simply they like guys, or vice versa. I know several of people like that, but thats what they tell me so its really not valid i think.
Also from a Christian stand point Satan or the Devil can throw temptations and thoughts in our heads. Those temptations obliviously come from Hell. God does not judge us for those temptations, nor does he tempt us. So when people (ill use men for this example) at an early age think, wow that other guy look kinda cute (or what have you) that is a lie from Satan. You were not made that way, you were made to reproduce.
Homosexuals cannot reproduce, they can only recruit. (meaning adopt)
okay im not even gonna reply to Ieq, or Leq or whatever. Bro that was mean.
As for Glenn...
people choose to be homosexual because either there was no father figure in the home, and simply they like guys, or vice versa. I know several of people like that, but thats what they tell me so its really not valid i think.
Also from a Christian stand point Satan or the Devil can throw temptations and thoughts in our heads. Those temptations obliviously come from Hell. God does not judge us for those temptations, nor does he tempt us. So when people (ill use men for this example) at an early age think, wow that other guy look kinda cute (or what have you) that is a lie from Satan. You were not made that way, you were made to reproduce.
Homosexuals cannot reproduce, they can only recruit. (meaning adopt)
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Re: ReDx06 - 2008-12-04 |
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» sorry ISOHaven
sorry dude i totally forgot to comment you back. :)
Anyways ya the Bible does tell us that we are born in to sin. I really dont know if there is a straight gene. i could google i guess but i really doubt it.
Anyways...there comes a time when we as people begin to think for ourselves, even as little children. And as i said before Satan will throw temptations in our heads and confuse us. Satan will try to decieve the young and the old. That's from a Christian stand point.
sorry dude i totally forgot to comment you back. :)
Anyways ya the Bible does tell us that we are born in to sin. I really dont know if there is a straight gene. i could google i guess but i really doubt it.
Anyways...there comes a time when we as people begin to think for ourselves, even as little children. And as i said before Satan will throw temptations in our heads and confuse us. Satan will try to decieve the young and the old. That's from a Christian stand point.
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Re: StingBlah - 2008-12-04 |
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» okay everybody
just lay the f*** off. Nobody will win this because it is an argument that has gone on for centuries. It will certainly not be resolved in a psp-news site comment section.
Also, you guys are attacking ReDx06 more than he's attacking gays. If he has a belief, let him have it. So what if you don't agree? It doesn't matter. MANY people out there support ReDx06, and MANY support you guys. Let people have their own opinions.
You guys hating on ReDx06's ideas is just as bad as him hating on gays (which he really hasn't done that much of). FreePlay, ISOHaven, grandhistacos, AcesInThePalm, Will Rolled, pilch, treyjazz, and leq vs ReDx06? You won't change his mind so you don't need to gang up on him.
Btw, just because you guys are accepting of gays doesn't mean you are better. You also have to accepting of those that don't share your beliefs, ya even the haters.
And leq, if you can't go 1 week without masturbating before losing your mind you got problems.
just lay the f*** off. Nobody will win this because it is an argument that has gone on for centuries. It will certainly not be resolved in a psp-news site comment section.
Also, you guys are attacking ReDx06 more than he's attacking gays. If he has a belief, let him have it. So what if you don't agree? It doesn't matter. MANY people out there support ReDx06, and MANY support you guys. Let people have their own opinions.
You guys hating on ReDx06's ideas is just as bad as him hating on gays (which he really hasn't done that much of). FreePlay, ISOHaven, grandhistacos, AcesInThePalm, Will Rolled, pilch, treyjazz, and leq vs ReDx06? You won't change his mind so you don't need to gang up on him.
Btw, just because you guys are accepting of gays doesn't mean you are better. You also have to accepting of those that don't share your beliefs, ya even the haters.
And leq, if you can't go 1 week without masturbating before losing your mind you got problems.
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Re: chipsugar - 2008-12-04 |
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» Those statistics are laughable.
ReDx06:
I'm willing to bet that you had no idea where the statistics originally came from when you posted them.
And the studies these statistics came from are heavily flawed. And YOU'RE not only accepting them without ANY sources being provided but YOU'VE MISQUOTED and exaggerated him.
I could point you to the criticism of the study those statistics came from but, as you've not only made no attempt to link references for that study but also misquoted from the mp3, I'll make you find out and post some info like the studies names first.
ReDx06:
I'm willing to bet that you had no idea where the statistics originally came from when you posted them.
And the studies these statistics came from are heavily flawed. And YOU'RE not only accepting them without ANY sources being provided but YOU'VE MISQUOTED and exaggerated him.
I could point you to the criticism of the study those statistics came from but, as you've not only made no attempt to link references for that study but also misquoted from the mp3, I'll make you find out and post some info like the studies names first.
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Re: ReDx06 - 2008-12-04 |
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» Stingblah..
Wow your right! Thanks you for being the only one that had my back. You know maybe we'll leave this issue alone and just move on. We all have our on ideas and beliefs on homosexuality.
For the guy that replied after StingBlah, im not gonna even reply to your message.
Wow your right! Thanks you for being the only one that had my back. You know maybe we'll leave this issue alone and just move on. We all have our on ideas and beliefs on homosexuality.
For the guy that replied after StingBlah, im not gonna even reply to your message.
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Re: ISOHaven - 2008-12-05 |
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» WTF!?!?!?!?!
@stingblah - We're talking here. If you want to participate then do as such. Otherwise STFU.
"And as i said before Satan will throw temptations in our heads and confuse us. Satan will try to decieve the young and the old. That's from a Christian stand point.
Then why hasn't he done that to me?
I see where you have your head screwed up. You are taking your Christian teachings LITERALLY. Satan CAN do as such, not WILL do as such.
Did the EARTH flood or did Noah's AREA flood? Be sure you are THINKING FOR YOURSELF and not being s***** fed information. Yes, even your pastor can be wrong as can my priest.
@stingblah - We're talking here. If you want to participate then do as such. Otherwise STFU.
"And as i said before Satan will throw temptations in our heads and confuse us. Satan will try to decieve the young and the old. That's from a Christian stand point.
Then why hasn't he done that to me?
I see where you have your head screwed up. You are taking your Christian teachings LITERALLY. Satan CAN do as such, not WILL do as such.
Did the EARTH flood or did Noah's AREA flood? Be sure you are THINKING FOR YOURSELF and not being s***** fed information. Yes, even your pastor can be wrong as can my priest.
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Re: ISOHaven - 2008-12-05 |
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» WTF!?!?!?!?!
That is HILARIOUS!!!
QJ masked the word (p-o-o-n) from my s-p-o-o-n-f-e-d.
What the hell is a p-o-o-n?
That is HILARIOUS!!!
QJ masked the word (p-o-o-n) from my s-p-o-o-n-f-e-d.
What the hell is a p-o-o-n?
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Re: Glenn M. (QJ. NET Staff) - 2008-12-05 |
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» @ISOHaven
Apparently, talking about s*****s on a gay thread is taboo. Lol.
Apparently, talking about s*****s on a gay thread is taboo. Lol.
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Re: Uberoth - 2008-12-05 |
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» @ReDx06
You're saying that because you are attracted to guys that you should just ignore that part of yourself, because people tell you that it is wrong (An old book that has existed for centuries, has been proven that at some points in time it has been translated and that the guardians were abusive with their power, hardly even mentions anything on the matter and it's suddenly wrong).
I don't expect you to agree with everything that straight people do, I don't agree with a lot of things that gay people do, So don't force people to ignore a fundamental part of themselves (I am in no way trying to insult you, but it does sound like you are in denial).
Finally falling in love has nothing to do with sex.
You're saying that because you are attracted to guys that you should just ignore that part of yourself, because people tell you that it is wrong (An old book that has existed for centuries, has been proven that at some points in time it has been translated and that the guardians were abusive with their power, hardly even mentions anything on the matter and it's suddenly wrong).
I don't expect you to agree with everything that straight people do, I don't agree with a lot of things that gay people do, So don't force people to ignore a fundamental part of themselves (I am in no way trying to insult you, but it does sound like you are in denial).
Finally falling in love has nothing to do with sex.
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Re: chipsugar - 2008-12-05 |
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» @ ReDx06: I hope I didn't seem unfriendly...
...in my last post but you are horribly misquoting from your own mp3.
"78% of homosexual males have sexuality transmitted diseases."
Your own source disagrees with you. What he actually said was "78% of homosexual males have had *OR* do have a sexually transmitted disease." This, as he phrases it, would include people who have in the the past have had an std but have been cured. Other websites, while still not posting details of the study methods say "78% of homosexual males have BEEN AFFECTED by stds" which can even mean their boyfriend or a past boyfriend used to have one. And just because a disease can be transmitted sexually doesn't mean it isn't also transmitted in other ways.
There are also a lot of varying claims about who is affected by stds.This study, just to put things in perspective, says one in four teenage girls in America has an std (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7290088.stm). I'm sceptical of both statistics.
"homosexual males are 4000 times likely to have a STD."
Once more your own source disagrees with you. Listen again and you'll find he says "homosexual males are *23* times more likely to have a sexually transmitted disease" and "4000 times more like to get anal cancer." Once more no references are provided for the claims but they still differ vastly from the "quote" you provided.
"1% of men in the homosexual community die of natural causes."
At last something you've quoted correctly but the study this statistic comes from is heavily biased and worse completely unscientific. The preacher claims that this and other statistics come from within the homosexual community. It does not. It comes from an anti-gay campaigner called Paul Cameron who has sloppy research methods, is pro "conservative Christian" "family values" and is very easy to discredit. Http://www.ziplink.net/~glen/cameron.html in the "homosexual lifespan" describes Mr Camerons methods.
Once more I have no wish to change your *opinion* on what is right or wrong even though I disagree with you but please don't quote people that state dodgy statistics as "fact". Also don't *misquote* those same people. Have higher standards for yourself.
...in my last post but you are horribly misquoting from your own mp3.
"78% of homosexual males have sexuality transmitted diseases."
Your own source disagrees with you. What he actually said was "78% of homosexual males have had *OR* do have a sexually transmitted disease." This, as he phrases it, would include people who have in the the past have had an std but have been cured. Other websites, while still not posting details of the study methods say "78% of homosexual males have BEEN AFFECTED by stds" which can even mean their boyfriend or a past boyfriend used to have one. And just because a disease can be transmitted sexually doesn't mean it isn't also transmitted in other ways.
There are also a lot of varying claims about who is affected by stds.This study, just to put things in perspective, says one in four teenage girls in America has an std (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7290088.stm). I'm sceptical of both statistics.
"homosexual males are 4000 times likely to have a STD."
Once more your own source disagrees with you. Listen again and you'll find he says "homosexual males are *23* times more likely to have a sexually transmitted disease" and "4000 times more like to get anal cancer." Once more no references are provided for the claims but they still differ vastly from the "quote" you provided.
"1% of men in the homosexual community die of natural causes."
At last something you've quoted correctly but the study this statistic comes from is heavily biased and worse completely unscientific. The preacher claims that this and other statistics come from within the homosexual community. It does not. It comes from an anti-gay campaigner called Paul Cameron who has sloppy research methods, is pro "conservative Christian" "family values" and is very easy to discredit. Http://www.ziplink.net/~glen/cameron.html in the "homosexual lifespan" describes Mr Camerons methods.
Once more I have no wish to change your *opinion* on what is right or wrong even though I disagree with you but please don't quote people that state dodgy statistics as "fact". Also don't *misquote* those same people. Have higher standards for yourself.
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Re: StingBlah - 2008-12-06 |
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» @ISOHAVEN
I thought by commenting I WAS joining the discussion? You are epitomizing the gangbang mob behavior. All you're doing is supressing. You havent given any proof for your beliefs.
You think you can inflict them on others just because you have the majority at your back...and the fact that you have gay friends makes you better? I think not.
Why don't YOU STFU? Everybody just move on, you won't change anything here--just a waste of time and energy.
I thought by commenting I WAS joining the discussion? You are epitomizing the gangbang mob behavior. All you're doing is supressing. You havent given any proof for your beliefs.
You think you can inflict them on others just because you have the majority at your back...and the fact that you have gay friends makes you better? I think not.
Why don't YOU STFU? Everybody just move on, you won't change anything here--just a waste of time and energy.
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Re: leq - 2008-12-07 |
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» @StingBlah
StingBlah, you wanna hook up sometime? I'll bring the condoms ;)
StingBlah, you wanna hook up sometime? I'll bring the condoms ;)
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Re: ISOHaven - 2008-12-08 |
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» WTF!?!?!?!?!
@StingBlah -
"I thought by commenting I WAS joining the discussion?"
You would be wrong. By bltch about the comments you are not joining the discussion.
"You are epitomizing the gangbang mob behavior."
How do figure that? Each one of my comments have been a positive reinforcements of both life styles.
"All you're doing is supressing."
You mean suppressing idiots like you? Sure. Suppressing gay or straights? NOPE!
"You havent given any proof for your beliefs."
Um...did you read that one back to yourself?
"You think you can inflict them on others just because you have the majority at your back"
Welcome to AMERICA!
"and the fact that you have gay friends makes you better?"
HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!! You are such an idiot.
"Why don't YOU STFU?"
Why? I'm actually on topic. You are again doing nothing but crying like a little bltch about other peoples comments.
"Everybody just move on, you won't change anything here--just a waste of time and energy."
Who knows, maybe someone's mind is a little more enlighten from this discussion. You never know. Only a nazi bastard such as yourself would try to stifle enlightenment.
@StingBlah -
"I thought by commenting I WAS joining the discussion?"
You would be wrong. By bltch about the comments you are not joining the discussion.
"You are epitomizing the gangbang mob behavior."
How do figure that? Each one of my comments have been a positive reinforcements of both life styles.
"All you're doing is supressing."
You mean suppressing idiots like you? Sure. Suppressing gay or straights? NOPE!
"You havent given any proof for your beliefs."
Um...did you read that one back to yourself?
"You think you can inflict them on others just because you have the majority at your back"
Welcome to AMERICA!
"and the fact that you have gay friends makes you better?"
HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!! You are such an idiot.
"Why don't YOU STFU?"
Why? I'm actually on topic. You are again doing nothing but crying like a little bltch about other peoples comments.
"Everybody just move on, you won't change anything here--just a waste of time and energy."
Who knows, maybe someone's mind is a little more enlighten from this discussion. You never know. Only a nazi bastard such as yourself would try to stifle enlightenment.
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Re: ReDx06 - 2008-12-08 |
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» to ISOHaven
Hey that is enough, StingBlah can comment on here anytime he wants to. If you wanna tell him no then make your on post on another website and ban him there. But you cant do that here.
Second I've had it up to here(placing hand on top of forehead) with the ugly comments with everyone. One person decides to speak out on homosexuality and everyone goes insane. Dang something must be wrong with that whole lifestyle just to get you guys saying bad things about each other.
and to chipsugar can you reduce your comments and make them smaller. Not to make jokes but really Im to lazy to read all of that.
Hey that is enough, StingBlah can comment on here anytime he wants to. If you wanna tell him no then make your on post on another website and ban him there. But you cant do that here.
Second I've had it up to here(placing hand on top of forehead) with the ugly comments with everyone. One person decides to speak out on homosexuality and everyone goes insane. Dang something must be wrong with that whole lifestyle just to get you guys saying bad things about each other.
and to chipsugar can you reduce your comments and make them smaller. Not to make jokes but really Im to lazy to read all of that.
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Re: ISOHaven - 2008-12-09 |
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» WTF!?!?!?!?!
"Hey that is enough, StingBlah can comment on here anytime he wants to."
And? So can I. I love how you tell ME to stop then claim someone else can DO AS MUCH as they want. You are such a hypocrite. As much as you claim someone can post, that's directed at me as well. All I said was, get on topic or STFU. Can he comment all he wants OFF TOPIC? Well, physically, yes. But if someone acts like a jackass towards other people, don't you think SOMEONE is going to say something? Additionally, if they do say something, why do you care?
"Second I've had it up to here(placing hand on top of forehead) with the ugly comments with everyone."
Well, I've not given any ugly comments. Seems to me you were put in your place a few times and now you're crying about it.
"One person decides to speak out on homosexuality and everyone goes insane."
I didn't see anyone go insane. So, maybe that's you then? I've seen some people talk some crap about you. If you are wondering why then maybe you should take a long hard look at your comments here and put them in perspective. You've shown some intolerance on this site and people have REACTED towards your ACTION. If the truth hurts....CHANGE!
"Hey that is enough, StingBlah can comment on here anytime he wants to."
And? So can I. I love how you tell ME to stop then claim someone else can DO AS MUCH as they want. You are such a hypocrite. As much as you claim someone can post, that's directed at me as well. All I said was, get on topic or STFU. Can he comment all he wants OFF TOPIC? Well, physically, yes. But if someone acts like a jackass towards other people, don't you think SOMEONE is going to say something? Additionally, if they do say something, why do you care?
"Second I've had it up to here(placing hand on top of forehead) with the ugly comments with everyone."
Well, I've not given any ugly comments. Seems to me you were put in your place a few times and now you're crying about it.
"One person decides to speak out on homosexuality and everyone goes insane."
I didn't see anyone go insane. So, maybe that's you then? I've seen some people talk some crap about you. If you are wondering why then maybe you should take a long hard look at your comments here and put them in perspective. You've shown some intolerance on this site and people have REACTED towards your ACTION. If the truth hurts....CHANGE!
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Re: ReDx06 - 2008-12-10 |
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» ok
ok people telling me that im so far back in the closet, and that im freaking Narnia, and people asking me to have sex (as a joke) is not being put in my place. Thats called verbal persecution.
Dude read the messages people have written about me.
ok people telling me that im so far back in the closet, and that im freaking Narnia, and people asking me to have sex (as a joke) is not being put in my place. Thats called verbal persecution.
Dude read the messages people have written about me.
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Re: ISOHaven - 2008-12-11 |
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» WTF!?!?!?!?!
"Dude read the messages people have written about me."
Dude, how about you read my freakin post!
"I've seen some people talk some crap about you. If you are wondering why then maybe....."
Learn to comprehend what you read. Then maybe you wouldn't be so ignorant towards real life ideals.
"Dude read the messages people have written about me."
Dude, how about you read my freakin post!
"I've seen some people talk some crap about you. If you are wondering why then maybe....."
Learn to comprehend what you read. Then maybe you wouldn't be so ignorant towards real life ideals.
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Re: StingBlah - 2008-12-12 |
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» ISOHaven...
why are you so intolerant and belligerent? All your comments do nothing but attack.
why are you so intolerant and belligerent? All your comments do nothing but attack.
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Re: leq - 2008-12-12 |
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» @StingBlah
And all your posts do is attack the fact that he's attacking ReDx06. It's called arguing, and it's quite fun. Sure, it may not accomplish much, but how does it affect you in any way?
If it really bothers you that much, then just stop clicking on this article. Problem solved.
By the way, using big adjectives does not make you sound smarter, it just makes you sound like a pompous pseudointellectual (see? I can do it too).
And all your posts do is attack the fact that he's attacking ReDx06. It's called arguing, and it's quite fun. Sure, it may not accomplish much, but how does it affect you in any way?
If it really bothers you that much, then just stop clicking on this article. Problem solved.
By the way, using big adjectives does not make you sound smarter, it just makes you sound like a pompous pseudointellectual (see? I can do it too).
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Re: ReDx06 - 2008-12-13 |
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» Stingblah
Thanks alot dude for sticking up for me. I really appreciate it alot.
Leq...uhhhh were we talking to you at all, y don't you take your own advice and go get a life. If for some reason you don't like Stingblah standing up for me then go cry about it to someone else other wise shut up.
ISOHaven..."Learn to comprehend what you read. Then maybe you wouldn't be so ignorant towards real life ideals. "
Ok wat am i gonna learn from some one who says from ConXept
"I think ReDx06 is cute, wanna suck my *****, big boy?"
tell me am i gonna learn anything from that, is that really gonna build me up?
Overall you guys need to stop being jerks. I posted my opinion and you can just take that or leave it. But dont act disrespectful to someone just because they think differently then you.
Your really gonna judge and persecute someone just because of the way they think and act, wow kinda reminds me of what Hitler did to a point.
Thanks again Stingblah.
Thanks alot dude for sticking up for me. I really appreciate it alot.
Leq...uhhhh were we talking to you at all, y don't you take your own advice and go get a life. If for some reason you don't like Stingblah standing up for me then go cry about it to someone else other wise shut up.
ISOHaven..."Learn to comprehend what you read. Then maybe you wouldn't be so ignorant towards real life ideals. "
Ok wat am i gonna learn from some one who says from ConXept
"I think ReDx06 is cute, wanna suck my *****, big boy?"
tell me am i gonna learn anything from that, is that really gonna build me up?
Overall you guys need to stop being jerks. I posted my opinion and you can just take that or leave it. But dont act disrespectful to someone just because they think differently then you.
Your really gonna judge and persecute someone just because of the way they think and act, wow kinda reminds me of what Hitler did to a point.
Thanks again Stingblah.
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Re: ISOHaven - 2008-12-13 |
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» WTF!?!?!?!?!
Stingblah is just pissed because he knows he's an ass. Want proof?
"why are you so intolerant and belligerent?"
I'm 100% for both gays and straights. HTF is that intolerant? It's not. He's just an idiot that can't follow along in a normal typical conversation.
"Thanks alot dude for sticking up for me. I really appreciate it alot."
And all this guy does is kiss his ass.
"Ok wat am i gonna learn from some one who says from ConXept"
Ok, once again you NEED TO LEARN TO READ. I stated I SAW THESE comments then you tried to explain to me how these comments exist.
FIGURE IT OUT ALREADY!!!!
Damn, you are just plan dense!
Stingblah is just pissed because he knows he's an ass. Want proof?
"why are you so intolerant and belligerent?"
I'm 100% for both gays and straights. HTF is that intolerant? It's not. He's just an idiot that can't follow along in a normal typical conversation.
"Thanks alot dude for sticking up for me. I really appreciate it alot."
And all this guy does is kiss his ass.
"Ok wat am i gonna learn from some one who says from ConXept"
Ok, once again you NEED TO LEARN TO READ. I stated I SAW THESE comments then you tried to explain to me how these comments exist.
FIGURE IT OUT ALREADY!!!!
Damn, you are just plan dense!
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Re: leq - 2008-12-13 |
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» @ReDx06
"Leq...uhhhh were we talking to you at all, y don't you take your own advice and go get a life"
I never once told either of you to get a life. Man, if you're gonna attack my comment, at least use something I actually said.
"Leq...uhhhh were we talking to you at all, y don't you take your own advice and go get a life"
I never once told either of you to get a life. Man, if you're gonna attack my comment, at least use something I actually said.
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Re: ReDx06 - 2008-12-13 |
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» ok final
okay i understand that we all have different opinions and that we should all respect that. For me i think homosexuality is wrong. And for other it may be different, im sure that we all have different arguments and that we all think differently.
There's no need to get crazy and talk crap about each other. Lets just end it here cause im not gonna change your mind and your not gonna change mine. I believe that only God can change the way you think and how you go about your life. For you it may be different. But honestly that last posts haven't even been about the main subject of this topic. We've gone so off course that now we are bashing each other and saying stupid things.
So just end it here.
okay i understand that we all have different opinions and that we should all respect that. For me i think homosexuality is wrong. And for other it may be different, im sure that we all have different arguments and that we all think differently.
There's no need to get crazy and talk crap about each other. Lets just end it here cause im not gonna change your mind and your not gonna change mine. I believe that only God can change the way you think and how you go about your life. For you it may be different. But honestly that last posts haven't even been about the main subject of this topic. We've gone so off course that now we are bashing each other and saying stupid things.
So just end it here.
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Re: leq - 2008-12-14 |
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» personally
I have an extremely large *****
I have an extremely large *****
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Re: ReDx06 - 2008-12-14 |
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» uhhhhh....
grow up and get one by not posing anymore
grow up and get one by not posing anymore
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Re: ISOHaven - 2008-12-14 |
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» WTF!?!?!?!?!
"For me i think homosexuality is wrong"
Now had you stated THAT from the very begining, all this BS would have never happened. But you didn't. You spouted a bunch of unproven BS about HOW a person can or can not be gay.
Next time, STICK TO THE FACTS and people wont treat you like shlt.
"For me i think homosexuality is wrong"
Now had you stated THAT from the very begining, all this BS would have never happened. But you didn't. You spouted a bunch of unproven BS about HOW a person can or can not be gay.
Next time, STICK TO THE FACTS and people wont treat you like shlt.
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Re: ReDx06 - 2008-12-14 |
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» sorry Leq i meant
posting
ISOHaven....nice talk lol
posting
ISOHaven....nice talk lol
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Re: squintin - 2008-12-17 |
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» Gay
I think that gayness is not wrong but still not normal. Homosexuality was only normal in Rome and look how their civilization fell. I do believe that the only normal way to have sex is one where procreation is possible. But, not even straight couples do that all the time because nowadays everyone is a freak! I do believe that pda is wrong for gay couples because as much as they are sure that they 100% approve of it there are others who are 100% sure they don't. It all comes down to respect. Thats like your parents ***** on the dining room table during dinner or a friend hooking up with someone you like...in your bed. You know you wouldn't like that. Acceptance is different then understanding and I accept, but still don't understand how a guy can not like breasts!
I think that gayness is not wrong but still not normal. Homosexuality was only normal in Rome and look how their civilization fell. I do believe that the only normal way to have sex is one where procreation is possible. But, not even straight couples do that all the time because nowadays everyone is a freak! I do believe that pda is wrong for gay couples because as much as they are sure that they 100% approve of it there are others who are 100% sure they don't. It all comes down to respect. Thats like your parents ***** on the dining room table during dinner or a friend hooking up with someone you like...in your bed. You know you wouldn't like that. Acceptance is different then understanding and I accept, but still don't understand how a guy can not like breasts!
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by OverlordXenu - 2008-12-02 |
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» lol
Bashing games for its homosexuality?
What's next, flagging a game because it contains black people?
Bashing games for its homosexuality?
What's next, flagging a game because it contains black people?
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Re: kupomogli - 2008-12-03 |
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» Hello OverlordXenu
Meet Resident Evil 5.
I don't know if you remember the controversy over the game having all those black zombies.
Black people all over the world were. "OMG. CAPCOM IS RACIST." I mean jeez. How many white people are killed in the RE games. I mean come on. Go cry me a *****ing river you pussies.
I just think the overly offended bull***** about racism goes a little too far, especially seeing that 99.9% of the community they live in, doesn't matter where, actually isn't racist.
Meet Resident Evil 5.
I don't know if you remember the controversy over the game having all those black zombies.
Black people all over the world were. "OMG. CAPCOM IS RACIST." I mean jeez. How many white people are killed in the RE games. I mean come on. Go cry me a *****ing river you pussies.
I just think the overly offended bull***** about racism goes a little too far, especially seeing that 99.9% of the community they live in, doesn't matter where, actually isn't racist.
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Re: squintin - 2008-12-17 |
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» not true kupomogli...
only a few old dumb black people were upset...probably the same ones who wanted echochrome banned cause "you play as a white person killing the black people" only for them to find out they're stupid cause the "black people" were shadows that you walk into to pass the level (dumb *****s! I bet they didn't bother to play the game cause their dumb ***** minds couldn't handle escher) I'm black and I get that in the first RE games zombies of all color were trying to kill you. in RE4 Spaniard zombies try to kill you, in RE5 because its African zombies, the politically correct thing to do is let them eat you..and never perform a hate crime by killing them... wake up you dumb old *****s! Its a game! I feel sad for the christian kids who's parents ban games. when warfare breaks out they'll have no experience and get pwned by zombies or terrorists immediately!
only a few old dumb black people were upset...probably the same ones who wanted echochrome banned cause "you play as a white person killing the black people" only for them to find out they're stupid cause the "black people" were shadows that you walk into to pass the level (dumb *****s! I bet they didn't bother to play the game cause their dumb ***** minds couldn't handle escher) I'm black and I get that in the first RE games zombies of all color were trying to kill you. in RE4 Spaniard zombies try to kill you, in RE5 because its African zombies, the politically correct thing to do is let them eat you..and never perform a hate crime by killing them... wake up you dumb old *****s! Its a game! I feel sad for the christian kids who's parents ban games. when warfare breaks out they'll have no experience and get pwned by zombies or terrorists immediately!
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by Orlyeh - 2008-12-02 |
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» Oh noes
Quick! Stop the presses! There's a Christian group that believes homosexuality is IMMORAL. HOLY (er, no pun intended) MACARONI!
Is it that much a shock to learn that there are families and parents who don't wish their children to be exposed to homosexuality (or any sexuality for that matter) when they are in their formative years?
If anything, the article in question demonstrates just how much tongue-in-cheek humor there is regarding homosexuality in the gaming culture in the first place.
Quick! Stop the presses! There's a Christian group that believes homosexuality is IMMORAL. HOLY (er, no pun intended) MACARONI!
Is it that much a shock to learn that there are families and parents who don't wish their children to be exposed to homosexuality (or any sexuality for that matter) when they are in their formative years?
If anything, the article in question demonstrates just how much tongue-in-cheek humor there is regarding homosexuality in the gaming culture in the first place.
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by ConXept - 2008-12-02 |
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» ..lol......
I think ReDx06 is cute, wanna suck my *****, big boy?
I think ReDx06 is cute, wanna suck my *****, big boy?
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by TRA - 2008-12-03 |
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» here we go...
probably the same "christians" (=raging maniacs) that would put their own children into those "counseling camps" (=gay concentration camps) to "heal" their homosexuality (=drive them into suicide). those people always existed and - sadly - always will (so called "christians" that is).
people, what you do is NOT christian! except being christian means harrassing other people or even your own child for being different... well, for some people it obviously is...
probably the same "christians" (=raging maniacs) that would put their own children into those "counseling camps" (=gay concentration camps) to "heal" their homosexuality (=drive them into suicide). those people always existed and - sadly - always will (so called "christians" that is).
people, what you do is NOT christian! except being christian means harrassing other people or even your own child for being different... well, for some people it obviously is...
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by KH - 2008-12-03 |
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» *sigh*
It's a Christian parent's right to know about what's in the games their kids play, just like it's your right to come on this forum and call Christians crazy Nazi's that drive innocent children to suicide, and ruin lives, and spread hatred.
And you know what? It's not right to have men or women making out in a video game.
Now, this list sucks, because it sounds about as well informed as Fox News, when they covered "Mass Effect: Jackrabbit Copulation". But if anybody out there has anything against gay people, within their own private communities, then don't post it on QJ and ***** about it. It's your own personal choice to dislike somebody. Besides that, most Christians that are opposed to homosexuality don't hate gay people, they just don't believe that their style of life is right (My opinion).
Everybody deals with hatred towards them, and you all need to grow up and deal with it. It's not going to end. White kids in predominantly black schools are made fun of, and vice versa. Unfortunately, only some hatred matters. I am 100% NOT racist, but it does kind of piss me off that white vs. black racism is terrible, but black vs. white racism isn't. It's very annoying that any time Christianity comes up, it's saying that we need less rights, and that any time Islam comes up, we try to help them. I believe in equality, and TOTAL equality, not "Well, this group has been repressed for so long. Let's give them the shot to have all the perks!"
It's a Christian parent's right to know about what's in the games their kids play, just like it's your right to come on this forum and call Christians crazy Nazi's that drive innocent children to suicide, and ruin lives, and spread hatred.
And you know what? It's not right to have men or women making out in a video game.
Now, this list sucks, because it sounds about as well informed as Fox News, when they covered "Mass Effect: Jackrabbit Copulation". But if anybody out there has anything against gay people, within their own private communities, then don't post it on QJ and ***** about it. It's your own personal choice to dislike somebody. Besides that, most Christians that are opposed to homosexuality don't hate gay people, they just don't believe that their style of life is right (My opinion).
Everybody deals with hatred towards them, and you all need to grow up and deal with it. It's not going to end. White kids in predominantly black schools are made fun of, and vice versa. Unfortunately, only some hatred matters. I am 100% NOT racist, but it does kind of piss me off that white vs. black racism is terrible, but black vs. white racism isn't. It's very annoying that any time Christianity comes up, it's saying that we need less rights, and that any time Islam comes up, we try to help them. I believe in equality, and TOTAL equality, not "Well, this group has been repressed for so long. Let's give them the shot to have all the perks!"
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Re: ReDx06 - 2008-12-03 |
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» Your right....
I totally agree with you when you say that Christians dont hate gays, they hate their lifestyle.
Some gays are pretty nice people, one of my friends was gay, did i agree of his life style, no.
I totally agree with you when you say that Christians dont hate gays, they hate their lifestyle.
Some gays are pretty nice people, one of my friends was gay, did i agree of his life style, no.
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by Hippy Pickle - 2008-12-03 |
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» just come out already
I think ReDx06 is so far back in the closet he's in f***ing NARNIA!!!!
I think ReDx06 is so far back in the closet he's in f***ing NARNIA!!!!
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Re: ReDx06 - 2008-12-04 |
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» uhhhh
your a jerk and need to get a life
your a jerk and need to get a life
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Re: squintin - 2008-12-17 |
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» hey!
I made that joke (not my opinion, the actual truth...don't give me some bull***** about how someone else did or great minds think alike, ***** that...its mine)
I made that joke (not my opinion, the actual truth...don't give me some bull***** about how someone else did or great minds think alike, ***** that...its mine)
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by ISOHaven - 2008-12-03 |
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» WTF!?!?!?!?!
Much better title!!!
Much better title!!!
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by Nezumi - 2008-12-04 |
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» Born gay/lesbian?
So if I start having sex with same gendered individuals, will that make me gay/lesbian? I sure as hell wasn't born that way, so I would say it's either choice or you can shove your own d*ick up your a*s.
So if I start having sex with same gendered individuals, will that make me gay/lesbian? I sure as hell wasn't born that way, so I would say it's either choice or you can shove your own d*ick up your a*s.
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Re: ISOHaven - 2008-12-04 |
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» WTF!?!?!?!?!
Of course that would be choice. Who told you it had to be choice OR born with it?
Did you ever think for even one second that it can be choice AND born with it? Not everyone is the same. Think about that.
Of course that would be choice. Who told you it had to be choice OR born with it?
Did you ever think for even one second that it can be choice AND born with it? Not everyone is the same. Think about that.
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by Kexbut - 2008-12-07 |
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» funny comments
hahahaha you guys suck ass LOL ISOHaven
"you are an idiot. We do not RAPE other people to show dominance. Well, for those that do, they get locked up"
hahahaha you guys suck ass LOL ISOHaven
"you are an idiot. We do not RAPE other people to show dominance. Well, for those that do, they get locked up"
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Re: ISOHaven - 2008-12-08 |
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» WTF!?!?!?!?!
I figured someone would enjoy the "scratch" :)
I figured someone would enjoy the "scratch" :)
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by Daistaar - 2008-12-08 |
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» Enchanted Arms
I seriously hope ENCHANTED ARMS is in that list. I still feel UBISOFT owes me money on that one...
I seriously hope ENCHANTED ARMS is in that list. I still feel UBISOFT owes me money on that one...
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by ps3juggalo - 2008-12-10 |
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» The real simple answers
1. YES - YOU are BORN gay, straight, or bi. You can't choose to be gay, however you can choose gay sex. Example, my tongue thinks olives taste nasty, but I could still choose to eat one.
2. For those with religious beliefs...there is no god. You know what you christians think about Zeus - dito to yours.
1. YES - YOU are BORN gay, straight, or bi. You can't choose to be gay, however you can choose gay sex. Example, my tongue thinks olives taste nasty, but I could still choose to eat one.
2. For those with religious beliefs...there is no god. You know what you christians think about Zeus - dito to yours.
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Re: ReDx06 - 2008-12-15 |
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» Lol
ohhh really?
Let me ask you if there is no God explain our solar system, explain the galaxies and galaxies of planets. How come no other planet has human or life on it? Explain the mountains the trees every different type of animal beast. Tell me how neutrons and protons and atoms are not exploding and are being held so that the world just doesn't explode. Explain how our body is so unique and how for some strange reason we have dominion over the animals of this world? Tell me why there is a God out there that loves you and your heart is to hard to come and receive his blessings?
Lastly tell me why ever since I became a Christian my eyes have been opened and that ever since I've never had a boring day?
So God doesn't exist egh? I wonder y nothing hasn't exploded and made new worlds....oh wait the air in my room is getting together and making a planet hold on give me a few 1000-1,000,000 years ill be right back.
ohhh really?
Let me ask you if there is no God explain our solar system, explain the galaxies and galaxies of planets. How come no other planet has human or life on it? Explain the mountains the trees every different type of animal beast. Tell me how neutrons and protons and atoms are not exploding and are being held so that the world just doesn't explode. Explain how our body is so unique and how for some strange reason we have dominion over the animals of this world? Tell me why there is a God out there that loves you and your heart is to hard to come and receive his blessings?
Lastly tell me why ever since I became a Christian my eyes have been opened and that ever since I've never had a boring day?
So God doesn't exist egh? I wonder y nothing hasn't exploded and made new worlds....oh wait the air in my room is getting together and making a planet hold on give me a few 1000-1,000,000 years ill be right back.
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Re: ISOHaven - 2008-12-17 |
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» WTF!?!?!?!?!
Here you go again!!!!
"Let me ask you if there is no God explain our solar system"
Our solar system can be explained in many different ways. It's the same as EVERY OTHER solar system. Did God create those as well? The ignorant people who wrote all the bible stories had NO CLUE about our solar system or the fact that there are infinite other solar systems in infinite other galaxies.
I'm a God fearing man but in the end, the bible is nothing but HUMAN written stories. No vessel on this PLANET could possibly store one of each specimen. That is a physical impossibility. So tell your God to explain that one to us. Why didn't the bible teach us that the planet was ROUND and went around the sun before countless people died for their beliefs.
So you believe God snapped his fingers and POOF our solar system was created. Yeah, sure! That MUST be the only way a solar system could have possibly been created.
"explain the galaxies and galaxies of planets"
How about YOU explain it, especially after your next ignorant comment:
"How come no other planet has human or life on it?"
So God created "galaxies and galaxies of planets" and WE are the only ones? Tell me young grasshopper, when did you return from your trip to all these other galaxies?
HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!
You need to open your eyes and your brain boy. You are traveling a very ignorant path.
Here you go again!!!!
"Let me ask you if there is no God explain our solar system"
Our solar system can be explained in many different ways. It's the same as EVERY OTHER solar system. Did God create those as well? The ignorant people who wrote all the bible stories had NO CLUE about our solar system or the fact that there are infinite other solar systems in infinite other galaxies.
I'm a God fearing man but in the end, the bible is nothing but HUMAN written stories. No vessel on this PLANET could possibly store one of each specimen. That is a physical impossibility. So tell your God to explain that one to us. Why didn't the bible teach us that the planet was ROUND and went around the sun before countless people died for their beliefs.
So you believe God snapped his fingers and POOF our solar system was created. Yeah, sure! That MUST be the only way a solar system could have possibly been created.
"explain the galaxies and galaxies of planets"
How about YOU explain it, especially after your next ignorant comment:
"How come no other planet has human or life on it?"
So God created "galaxies and galaxies of planets" and WE are the only ones? Tell me young grasshopper, when did you return from your trip to all these other galaxies?
HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!
You need to open your eyes and your brain boy. You are traveling a very ignorant path.
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by ReDx06 - 2008-12-17 |
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» Back at cha'
You say your a God fearing man but you don't even believe his word. If you fear God then read his word. And yes the Bible does talk about the Earth being round. And another thing In the Bible it says that yes it was written by men but they were filled with the Holy Spirit when they were writing it.
Also we are talking about God here, do you not think that he couldn't give someone the intelligence to know about the stars and the other planets. Do you think our God has limits? And yes im saying our God because he exists weather you like it or not.
You say your a God fearing man but you can't even believe the first 4 words of the Bible.
And yes I can tell you that we don't have other human life on other planets because its not in his word. And science tells us that there are no other human beings on any other planets. Our would is so perfectly put in to place that a few degrees of (meaning longitude and latitude) we would either freeze to death over time or we would burn up. So ya I do think in a simplified (very simplified) way, God spoke the Heavens and the Galaxies together.
Stop lying to yourself, you call me ignorant but you are contradicting yourself in the very same process of calling me ignorant. Instead of asking me questions why dont you open that little black book of yours on your desk called a Bible and read it for yourself. Research and find out for yourself. I dare you.
You say your a God fearing man but you don't even believe his word. If you fear God then read his word. And yes the Bible does talk about the Earth being round. And another thing In the Bible it says that yes it was written by men but they were filled with the Holy Spirit when they were writing it.
Also we are talking about God here, do you not think that he couldn't give someone the intelligence to know about the stars and the other planets. Do you think our God has limits? And yes im saying our God because he exists weather you like it or not.
You say your a God fearing man but you can't even believe the first 4 words of the Bible.
And yes I can tell you that we don't have other human life on other planets because its not in his word. And science tells us that there are no other human beings on any other planets. Our would is so perfectly put in to place that a few degrees of (meaning longitude and latitude) we would either freeze to death over time or we would burn up. So ya I do think in a simplified (very simplified) way, God spoke the Heavens and the Galaxies together.
Stop lying to yourself, you call me ignorant but you are contradicting yourself in the very same process of calling me ignorant. Instead of asking me questions why dont you open that little black book of yours on your desk called a Bible and read it for yourself. Research and find out for yourself. I dare you.
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» the bible
But the bible contradicts itself many times. So why should I believe that ANYTHING it says is true?
But the bible contradicts itself many times. So why should I believe that ANYTHING it says is true?
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» WTF!?!?!?!?!
See, you are totally ignorant of your OWN religion. You don't even know what you are talking about.
1. The bible IS NOT Gods word. It is a STORY BOOK written by MAN.
2. In a few places, Gods word is repeated. Yet, unless you are reading an ancient language, you're reading something that was interpreted then interpreted again then interpreted again then interpreted again!
3. What I discussed above WAS NOT SPOKEN FROM GOD. Again, nothing but stories written by man.
Seriously bud, how do you expect to carry on a conversation with people when you know nothing of which you speak? You don't even know what your own bible is yet alone the difference between Gods word and bedtime stories.
See, you are totally ignorant of your OWN religion. You don't even know what you are talking about.
1. The bible IS NOT Gods word. It is a STORY BOOK written by MAN.
2. In a few places, Gods word is repeated. Yet, unless you are reading an ancient language, you're reading something that was interpreted then interpreted again then interpreted again then interpreted again!
3. What I discussed above WAS NOT SPOKEN FROM GOD. Again, nothing but stories written by man.
Seriously bud, how do you expect to carry on a conversation with people when you know nothing of which you speak? You don't even know what your own bible is yet alone the difference between Gods word and bedtime stories.
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by ReDx06 - 2008-12-17 |
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» uhhhh...
have you actually read the Bible? (Mr. Godfearing man and his sidekick Leq)
have you actually read the Bible? (Mr. Godfearing man and his sidekick Leq)
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» WTF!?!?!?!?!
Yes, I have read MY bible.
uhhhh... did you have a point?
I'm also in my third year of learning Hebrew with an emphasis on Biblical Aramaic and will soon start studies on Aramaic in the New Testament.
Got anything else you want to claim as fact?
Yes, I have read MY bible.
uhhhh... did you have a point?
I'm also in my third year of learning Hebrew with an emphasis on Biblical Aramaic and will soon start studies on Aramaic in the New Testament.
Got anything else you want to claim as fact?
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» ya i do
so are you a Christian or not?
so are you a Christian or not?
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» WTF!?!?!?!?!
"Got anything else you want to claim as fact? "
"ya i do"
"so are you a Christian or not?"
That's your false fact? Looks more like a question. No, I'm not Christian. Close!
"Got anything else you want to claim as fact? "
"ya i do"
"so are you a Christian or not?"
That's your false fact? Looks more like a question. No, I'm not Christian. Close!
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by ReDx06 - 2008-12-19 |
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» Ok
Ok well i dont have to explain anything to you, you said you studied God's word so now your even more accountable when he returns. Well good luck in life and take care. "You know his word" so we really have nothing to talk about so LATE!
Ok well i dont have to explain anything to you, you said you studied God's word so now your even more accountable when he returns. Well good luck in life and take care. "You know his word" so we really have nothing to talk about so LATE!
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» WTF!?!?!?!?!
"Ok well i dont have to explain anything to you"
Who said you did? This is a FORUM FOR DISCUSSION. If you don't want to discuss then take a hike.
"you said you studied God's word so now your even more accountable when he returns."
??? did you have a point here?
"Well good luck in life and take care. "You know his word" so we really have nothing to talk about so LATE!"
I'd venture to claim most people here know his word. Each to different extents. So by that logic, why did you ever open your mouth to begin with?
"Ok well i dont have to explain anything to you"
Who said you did? This is a FORUM FOR DISCUSSION. If you don't want to discuss then take a hike.
"you said you studied God's word so now your even more accountable when he returns."
??? did you have a point here?
"Well good luck in life and take care. "You know his word" so we really have nothing to talk about so LATE!"
I'd venture to claim most people here know his word. Each to different extents. So by that logic, why did you ever open your mouth to begin with?
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